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pro350hydro
01-14-2004, 10:01 PM
Anthony,
I am just curious why you are buying a $700 exhaust system designed for a sit down watercraft, than adapting it to the 45ss powerhead. Why wouldn't you design a "pipe that will work" to the 45ss powerhead, Instead of ADAPTING a pipe that is designed for a different powerhead????
I'm not an expert like you, but "I HAVE DESIGNED PIPES THAT WORK" and I think that you could design a better pipe for the powerhead than what your buying. Plus you could save allot of money, maybe that would make the 45 a more reasonable priced competitive motor.
Just my 2 cents
Mike
R-15
pro350hydro
01-16-2004, 01:31 PM
Anthony, you gonna reply?
pro350hydro
01-17-2004, 01:54 AM
one last BUMP
modifiedoutboard
01-17-2004, 07:31 AM
This response applies only to classes mentioned here and we all already know the STOCK Yamato 302 and 125 PRO engines are the best low cost outboard racing engines out there.
It costs at least $5,500 to hang a STOCK NEW complete "anything" on the back of a D or FE/SE boat. When i say STOCK I am using that term the same as Yamato uses it "AS MANUFACTURED" . If you want your "stock engine" improved,
blueprinted and or modified then the cost will increase. The notion that you can get a COMPLETE D, FE/SE engine for less is un-realistic. OMC made Yall a 45ss how many were sold?
OMC TRIPLE:
Go to a Junk Yard find several 30 year old engines with the right carbs if you can, try to get the engines apart , replace the bottom end with stuff that will not fly apart and get it balanced and then have it re-assembled . Build a spare and Double that price!!!! No one has put a price on that!
Ed Runne builds a reliable triple and you only need to buy ONE ENGINE from him, ask Kenny Rosado!
IN CLOSING
The reason I use a sitdown watercraft pipe is that the laydown watercraft pipes do not work as well for my application.
Where are the images I requested? Howard Shaw 45ss?
hydroman6
01-17-2004, 08:24 AM
Anyone have a complete list of the legal carb P/N's for the OMC triple?
Steve
pro350hydro
01-17-2004, 12:32 PM
Originally posted by modifiedoutboard
The reason I use a sitdown watercraft pipe is that the laydown watercraft pipes do not work as well for my application.
Where are the images I requested? Howard Shaw 45ss?
Anthony,
I was asking why you didn't design your own pipe. Not adapt something else. Obviously you don't understand what I'm saying or what I mean
What am I your servant? I am not Howard Shaw, and I don't have pictures of his motor....nor would I post them If I did
Remember, not everone likes to brag, and showoff there lastest work until the first turn. We are boat racers, you are a manufacture trying to push parts. I'm sure if Howard Shaw wants your help, he will call you. Until then, drop it.
Dave M
01-20-2004, 12:53 PM
I want to clairfy one mistake by someone, it DOES NOT cost over 5000 to build a FE powerhead. If it did, I would not be racing. I don't give a crap what any of your fancy engineer type say. Maybe if you buy it from them it iwll cost that much, but then isn't Mod a place for tinkerers ? Given the cost of lower units, and tower housings, and props now a days, one might invest a lot.
But, Like Anthony said, go to a junkyard, you can find a ton of OMC Triples. Most do not need new cranks, or whatever else it is they say. There are so many in the junkyard, keep getting them until you find one.
Form there if you do your own work, you can build it up to be competitive, to win, that comes with time, it is not always who has the fastest motor and boat, it is driving.
Bottom line, buy a motor from an engine builder, costs bucks, they have a lot of money wrappe dup in machine shop tooling, they have to recoup it somehow I guess.
Build it yourself, there is no way in HE!! it will cost 5 grand.
Dave
P.S. Don't give me the B.S. you gotta buy all new pistons, rings, etc, they cost bucks, bearings and stuff, I have bought them, and I know exactly what they cost.
modifiedoutboard
01-20-2004, 07:05 PM
[By Dave M
I want to clairfy one mistake by someone, it DOES NOT cost over 5000 to build a FE powerhead. ]
Said , a turn key complete engine $5,500 min, Where did you learn finance from Aurthur Anderson?
Anthony
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pro350hydro
01-21-2004, 03:03 AM
Originally posted by modifiedoutboard
[By Dave M
I want to clairfy one mistake by someone, it DOES NOT cost over 5000 to build a FE powerhead. ]
Said , a turn key complete engine $5,500 min, Where did you learn finance from Aurthur Anderson?
Anthony
Just another Race Boat Sponser
you said your 45ss costs $6000+
and you said triples are worth $10,000 when you get done
if they are worth that, then why don't they sell for that?
how many have you sold at that price?
someone needs a calculator
modifiedoutboard
01-21-2004, 12:05 PM
Someone needs their bottle.
45ss exhaust and the xxxx xxxx xxxxx
Anthony
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Dave M
01-21-2004, 01:28 PM
I knew I recognzed you somewhere Anthony, since i need to go back to Finance School.... you need to go back to Engineering school, and minor in math.
Did we go to the same college ? Must have, I am dumb at finance..... as someone is to building cost effective, fast engines that are more than a one heat wonder......
Make your own pipes, get them chrom plated, they will work as good as any watercraft pipe you adapt. That way you could lower the overall cost of your end product. You might even be able to afford your own tools so you don't try and take everyones elses. Ooppss, sorry, I suck at finances... what am I saying, trying to increase profits...... darn, they told me that is not the goal in school........
Anyone care for a game of Dodgeball....:D :D
form-e one
01-22-2004, 05:47 PM
well hec i dontknow i guess cause ime raceing the same engine i built about 7-8 years ago..and set 4 world records with...and all less than 2 thousand dollars ....go figure ...it pays to do your home work first......cheyney,,,still only one over 100mph..hehe
pro350hydro
01-22-2004, 10:34 PM
Originally posted by form-e one
same engine i built about 7-8 years ago..and set 4 world records with...and all less than 2 thousand dollars ....go figure ...it pays to do your home work first......cheyney,,,still only one over 100mph..hehe
This is everyone's point here. You don't need to spend all your cash on a motor. If you want to spend that kind of money on a motor, you may as well run pro.
It's just like in your other thread you said you spent $20 bucks on your exhaust. You are proof you don't need to spend all your prop money on exhaust
mercguy
01-22-2004, 11:10 PM
Originally posted by form-e one
well hec i dontknow i guess cause ime raceing the same engine i built about 7-8 years ago..and set 4 world records with...and all less than 2 thousand dollars ....go figure ...it pays to do your home work first......cheyney,,,still only one over 100mph..hehe
touche!! there we go folks, that was the knock out punch...............
hey Mike, so what do you have in that "bottle"??
pro350hydro
01-22-2004, 11:16 PM
Originally posted by mercguy
touche!! there we go folks, that was the knock out punch...............
hey Mike, so what do you have in that "bottle"??
why?, ya want some?
trust me, you'll like it:D
mercguy
01-22-2004, 11:20 PM
Originally posted by Dave M
I knew I recognzed you somewhere Anthony, since i need to go back to Finance School.... you need to go back to Engineering school, and minor in math.
Did we go to the same college ? Must have, I am dumb at finance..... as someone is to building cost effective, fast engines that are more than a one heat wonder......
Make your own pipes, get them chrom plated, they will work as good as any watercraft pipe you adapt. That way you could lower the overall cost of your end product. You might even be able to afford your own tools so you don't try and take everyones elses. Ooppss, sorry, I suck at finances... what am I saying, trying to increase profits...... darn, they told me that is not the goal in school........
Anyone care for a game of Dodgeball....:D :D
hey Dave, it would be a pretty crappy game of dodgeball, since Anthony is the only one dodging the ball........
Dave M
01-23-2004, 12:44 PM
It would be fun to kick it though... :))))
I don't know about y'all, but if I spend 10g on any engine, it better be a 1100cc Konig Rossi, or whatever is the fastest **** 1100cc engine out there !!!
If I spend 7g on one, it better be a 350cc. Wait, I been hitting that dang bottle, it must be spiked, I ain't got 5 g to spend on a motor, yet I have a competitive FE engine..... Imagine that, give me more of what is in that bottle, it brought me back down to reality !!!!!!!
modifiedoutboard
01-23-2004, 07:48 PM
How many competive engines are neccessary? Five?
Hope to complete a second engine one day.
Will have to swap the gearcase still owe Sid for the last rebuild.
Where is my snack!
pro350hydro
01-24-2004, 02:57 AM
Originally posted by modifiedoutboard
How many competive engines are neccessary? Five?
Hope to complete a second engine one day.
Will have to swap the gearcase still owe Sid for the last rebuild.
Where is my snack!
Pay your bills, and get your snack from your pre-school teacher
modifiedoutboard
01-24-2004, 04:45 AM
Wonder how many will show up for Nats with one engine?
Wonder what the average number of spare engines is?
Wonder if Dave M will give me some pizza?
Anthony
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