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will350
01-12-2004, 07:20 AM
Since I just could not make it happen...........
Ponder this , R-14 Will

David_L6
01-12-2004, 10:48 AM
Knowing some of the other things you've tried, I kinda supect that you've already tested... ;) How'd it run?

xcelerator
01-12-2004, 06:36 PM
what powers that? Looks very interesting :o

I give it two thumbs up:D :D :D

will350
01-12-2004, 09:39 PM
I tried this a couple times . Fired off on the trailer but
wouldn't deep water start and no beach crew so........
Probably a GOOD thing because it's 80 or so hp and with no one
else around , I could have made some serious trouble for myself .
I have run it on 48 volts ( see "battery power") and it got up
quickly enough , pulled 300-350 amps ( = 16-18 hp ) @ 25 mph .
The power package weighed too much to fly it ( 240 or so ) but I think a 440 twin "should" water start and have enough juice ( 35 hp) to make
it into the 60 mph range or more .
I bought it for $200 and got a 1 liter Hickling with it for free . The 1 liter had been Nate Brown's in the past and I gave it back to him to hang on the wall of his shop.
This one was a virgin when I got it , never had a motor in it , never been in the water . R-14 Will

will350
01-12-2004, 09:43 PM
I'm tempted to mount it up on a spare tower
And try it as 500 sprint motor ......... Or ?
R-14 Will

epugh66
01-13-2004, 08:24 AM
Is that a 62-63 Ranchero in the background? Someday I hope to have the series in a wagon...with a FI 5.0 HO and AOD transmission:)

will350
01-13-2004, 01:04 PM
That's a 63 with a factory 260 V-8 and 4 speed . My father bought
it in 72 during the gas crunch for $275 . When I got it it had 302 which I pulled in favor of the correct motor . I sold it a couple year ago . The guy that bought it had a massive stroke a month later .
There are some key differences between the V-8 cars and the 6 cyl. cars .
Wheel stud pattern and brakes are the most obvious . If you get around a
a V-8 Falcon of that year , reach in beind the front wheel and rap on the panel . The 6 cyl. cars are sheet metal there , the V-8 cars are 1/4" plate .
I thought about using for a tow rig but came up with this instead .

It's a 67 with a 340 with a 727 auto on a 90" wheel base . Used to be a motorhome before the previous owner rolled it . I put the deck and house on it , wood framed covered with galvanized roofing . I did discover that the cam was 1 tooth advanced ( accounts for 9-11 mpg ) but it has so much compression that I may have to put the 318 back in .
R-14 Will

Ken Fleming
01-13-2004, 09:20 PM
Will
If you can find a 80 thru 83-84 440 rotax they put out about 96-97 hp stock also known as a 454. And your 340 should be somewhere around 70hp. And i was wondering if you run a rotary valve cooler on your rotax, just wondering cuz you said you burnt the middle bearings..
Ken

Abbott Racing
01-13-2004, 10:12 PM
Oh my God another outboard racer in Quebec!!!!!! I thought my son and I were the only ones left.

will350
01-14-2004, 11:22 AM
Originally posted by Ken Fleming
Will
If you can find a 80 thru 83-84 440 rotax they put out about 96-97 hp stock also known as a 454. And your 340 should be somewhere around 70hp. And i was wondering if you run a rotary valve cooler on your rotax, just wondering cuz you said you burnt the middle bearings..
Ken

Ken , I "could" run a 440 but I think the rest of the class wouldn't
real happy about it if they found out . No valve cooler, I think it went away because it was so lean in the first 1/2 of the throttle . It might also be because after I dumped at Eatonville , I didn't get it thoroughly dried out .
Or a combinaton , who knows . I did run it , maybe not long enough .
Have you started your tower yet? I forgot to send the drive shaft
details unless you have something else in mind . R-14 Will

Ken Fleming
01-14-2004, 08:38 PM
Will
I'm starting to get the alum together man that's some thick stuff. Not sure what to try for a driveshaft could use some info on what you use. If you want to try a cooler let me know it.s nothing fancy the pump is already in your motor just need to hook it up and get a small oil resivoir not even half a qt.. Oh yeah if you E-mail me your address i'll send you a countersink cage and cutter so you can make nice even countersinks. Ken

Ken Fleming
01-14-2004, 08:47 PM
Bob
Not racin yet just moved hear a while back i want to get my son into it he'll be ready next year to start so if he gets in i guess dad will have to get a boat to. I met you briefly at the races around cornwall. I'll need to find a class most of the people said cuz of my size 225 and up should run D but it seems to be an expensive and dying class because of it. Ken

will350
01-15-2004, 02:28 AM
Originally posted by Ken Fleming
Will
I'm starting to get the alum together man that's some thick stuff. Not sure what to try for a driveshaft could use some info on what you use. If you want to try a cooler let me know it.s nothing fancy the pump is already in your motor just need to hook it up and get a small oil resivoir not even half a qt.. Oh yeah if you E-mail me your address i'll send you a countersink cage and cutter so you can make nice even countersinks. Ken

I would imagine that for some one who does aircraft stuff , it's huge .
The front plate can be 1/2" , the side plates can be 3/8". I'm doing a new
one that's 1/8" on the sides .
The drive shafts are pretty simple really . 1/2" square cold rolled , a medium depth 1/2" drive socket ( Craftsman , guaranteed for life ) . Since I use Yamato feet , I use the Yamato coupler.
I file the square stock from 1/2" to 12 mm ( .472 ? ) I subtract .472 from .500 , divide by 2 , take that off 1 side . Turn it over and take down the other side to measure 12mm . Turn it 90 degrees and do it all again . You should wind up with a 12mm square end that's really close to center .
On the crank end , I run a nut onto a bolt and tighten them a tight as I
can with the flats lined up then I lock tite it in the crank . I use a medium depth socket because it will catch the bolt head and most of the nut .
I use a piece of tubing to keep the correct spacing between the socket and the coupler , about 1/16" end play ,up-down . I lube them with
molybdenum grease . Let me know if you need clarification on any of this .
R-14 Will